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Friday, November 05, 2004

An Opinion Not of my Own


Someone who has had a bit more time to formulate their thoughts came up with this - and I agree with damn near all of it.

"Even though Bush lost the popular vote in 2000, he nevertheless governed as if he had won by 10 million votes and had topped 400 electoral college votes. God help us now that he and the Christian Coalition won an election by 2%. Now he'll govern as if the clouds had parted and annointed him the chosen one.

Bush has not and will not reach out to those who disagree with him. In his mind, and in the minds of the Neo-Cons who advise him, Democrats are not fellow citizens but enemies and traitors to be smashed. The Bush administration treats its opponents with unbelievable arrogance and disdain. His call for cooperation is simply a call for unconditional surrender.

Now that the Moral Majority / Christian Coalition / American Taliban is firmly in the drivers seat, I expect them to impose their 'values' agenda on us all -- overturn Roe v. Wade, throw out Griswald 1965, and perhaps even criminalize homosexuality. Conservatives are all for limiting the power of government except when they get into the morals business. Scientific research in areas that conflict with Bush's born again friends (stem cells, alternate energy, global warming) etc will basically grind to a halt -- or be conducted overseas.

In the next four years, once we get more Scalias / Pickerings on the bench, we can look forward to a roll-back of pretty much all progressive legislation since McClaughlin Steel vs. U.S., 1937. Meanwhile, we'll blow through the $10 trillion mark on the national debt (in no time flat), leaving no possibility for anything but radical, abrupt surgery on medicare and social security in 2008.

Once the sheer incompetence on Iraq sinks in, and the fiscal insanity of Bush's economic policy makes itself clear (as it did to the Financial Times and Economist, which endorsed Kerry), then perhaps middle America will decide that God, Guns, and Gays won't keep their job in America, won't give them affordable (or any) health insurance, won't give them breathable air, won't improve their schools, and won't protect them from terrorists.

There are two Americas: one cosmopolitan and wordly, one insular and godly.
Now we get to re-fight all the battles of the 18th century Enlightenment."


I feel: 0_0 Frightened

4 Comments:

Blogger Jeff said...

Wow, that person tremendously exaggerated many issues. I sense more radical anger than logic. From what I have seen and read in the past few days, most cool-headed Democrats in Washington do not believe such crazy suggestions such as Roe vs. Wade will be overturned, etc. Those are comments coming from pissed off liberals that want to strike fear that all your “freedoms” are going to be flushed down the toilet since Bush has four more years. I think it’s pretty obvious that Liberals are out attacking Christians and anybody who disagrees with what their “freedoms” ought to include. And refusing to legalize “gay marriage” (an oxymoron) is a far cry from “criminalizing homosexuality”. If I find time in the next few days I may pick this apart some more.

I feel: 0_0 Frightened that you “agree with damn near all of it.” (If you agree with the extremes of the article)

Also, I would like to make clear that I do not necessarily agree everything that Bush has done and will probably do. A lot of Americans are not completely one way or the other. I also think Democrats have some good ideas also. However, I do find myself at this moment in time being more conservative in my views.
Ah, few things here - they're not attacking Christians. Don't close ranks with the crazies. He does approach governance as a fight to be won - both with allies, enemies, and our own people. There is a serious values fight that is going to go down in America. While the opinions set by previous judges won't be overturned, there will be a whole host of very conservative judges on the board - meaning that future cases very well might go the other way.

The gay marriage bans went in those 11 states. That's about as close to criminalizing homosexuality as you can get. Marriage is defined by the Christian faith as being a joining of a man and a woman. However, marriage is also a civil state - one that derives many benefits for the married couple. We have many religions in this country and seperation of church and state is an important part of our Constitution. Christian values should not be imposed on the civil state of marriage. I truly feel that marriage benefits should be upheld for all couples (of legal age) OR marriage benefits should be taken away from everyone.

3:43 PM

 
Blogger Jeff said...

This author may want a little more time to formulate their views, and more than just a intuition into how Bush thinks.

I find it strangly amusing that liberals will appeal to God for help against the "Christian Coalition". Rather ironic in my opinion.

American Taliban? Hardly. If this guy actually used real modes of comparisson rather than an impassioned reaction to the faith of our President and tagging it to a fundamental Islamicist regime.

I don't feel like I need to expand on Adam's points, he made them quite clear.

I will say that there is one thing in this article that I do agree with. That is the second to last line. That dichotomy is becoming more and more clearly defined.
Are you certain? I believe he hit Bush's worldview on the head - their are enemies, allies, and God, and that's it.

It is not ironic that he asks for God's help from the Christian Coalition. More and more, I see the far right Christian fundamentalists as Pharsees - are their houses all in order? Unlikely. Yet they strike out at all around them, and attempt to force virtues that they themselves do not hold to.

As for the American Taliban - they are pushing Christian values into everyday state issues - breaking the barriers on Church and State. This is EXACTLY what the Taliban and many other fundamentalist governments are like - something we should fight at every turn.

4:13 PM

 
Blogger Eric said...

So because they can't have kids, they are of no use to society and shouldn't be aloud to marry? I still think your grasping at straws to justify saying it's wrong because the Bible says so.

I don't get the "We have to draw the line somewhere!" implying that gay marrage would open the flug gates to beastiality and incest. Why can't that same line be drawn after gay marrage and not before it? Why is such a huge differance?

11:11 AM

 
Blogger The Renegade said...

i heart gay marriage and being Canadian.

i truly do not see why banning marriage between homosexuals is any different or "better" for society than, say, banning marriage between different races or religions. it's discrimination, plain and simple.

10:11 PM

 

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